
Perhaps this is a repeat, perhaps not. I’ll go ahead with it anyway. And a warning, this post grew and grew and grew, so it's a bit long.
In music world (or ‘Music Land’ as I like to call it sometimes), people often pose the question - Stones or Beatles? Pfft, I know, for 99% of my life I have been all like, ‘Are you SERIOUS?!? No one can compare to the Beatles’. I think a lot of people would agree with me, but I know that some people don’t. Some people disagree. I’ve always wondered why, but I think I start to get why. The Stones are great. I’ve been listening to 40 licks a bit lately and I think that in terms of ‘top songs’ they are pretty hard hitters. ‘Miss You’ for example, probably one of the catchiest songs ever written, it doesn’t get old. Then, you have to consider that ‘Miss You’ came out in 1978, some 15 years after they released their first single. That’s pretty impressive to be making a song like that 15 years after you started, given the amount of change that the 60s saw in music and culture. By the same token, ‘Start Me Up’, which was a number one hit in 1981 on release and was bought by Microsoft in 1994 for $14M to launch Windows 95, was 18 years after they first got on the scene. That’s impressive. The Beatles were together for 10 years. Interesting point.
So I get it. Satisfaction, Brown Sugar, Sympathy for the Devil, Can’t Always Get What you Want, Paint it Black – awesome. Great band, very influential. Still though, I’m in the Beatles camp. They changed music, and given that they were together for ten years the amount of hits they produced is unrivalled. They develop pop music as we know it now, and 90% of the songs on every one of their albums are good. Hard to beat.
That takes me to the next question though, influential people. Lists. Good fun. So here are some comparisons, top 10s from a few different sources.
The Billboard Top 100: 1. Beatles 2. Madonna 3. Elton John 4. Elvis Presley 5. Stevie Wonder 6. Mariah Carey 7. Janet Jackson 8. Michael Jackson 9. Whitney Houston 10. The Rolling Stones
The Rolling Stone Magazine Top 100: 1. The Beatles 2. Bob Dylan 3. Elvis Presley 4. Rolling Stones 5. Chuck Berry 6. Jimi Hendrix 7. James Brown 8. Little Richard 9. Aretha Franklin 10. Ray Charles
The VH1 all time top 100: 1. The Beatles 2. Michael Jackson 3. Led Zeppelin 4. Rolling Stones 5. Bob Dylan 6. Jimi Hendrix 7. Prince 8. Elvis Presley 9. James Brown 10. Stevie Wonder
Top 10 Country Stars of All Time (CM Time): 1. Johnny Cash 2. Hank Williams 3. Merle Haggard 4. Patsy Cline 5. Jimmy Rogers 6. Bill Munroe 7. Carter Family 8. Willie Nelson 9. Waylon Jennings 10. George Jones
Top 10 Highest Seller: 1. Beatles (600 odd million) 2. Elvis Presley 3. Michael Jackson 4. ABBA 5. Madonna 6. Led Zepplin 7. Queen 8. Elton John 9. Mariah Carey 10. Celine Dion
The Guardian Top Ten Composers: 1. Bach 2. Beethoven 3. Mozart 4. Schubert 5. Debussy 6 Stravinsky 7 Brahms 8 Verdi 9 Wagner 10 Bartók
So then, what to make of all these lists!??! Well, maybe I should make a list too - a list of my top ten musicians? Well here you go, with a reason:
10. Hank Williams
Hank was the original cowboy; he made a huge difference to music in the US, brought together Cajun with bluegrass to really found country music. Seeing it’s so big now, I think it’s important to have him on this list, plus I really like his stuff.
9. Eazy-E
I think NWA was probably the biggest and most influential early Rap group, and given Eazy-E’s place in that he should have a place here. All about places really. He had some amazing lyrics and was one of the first off-the-hook MC ‘s, and NWA were amazing...
8. Aretha Franklin
I think she was an important role model for a generation, and I think she was also the ‘mother’ of Gospel. I also felt bad that there weren’t more women on this list, and I think that probably has the best voice on this list.
7. James Brown
The Father of Funk. He really influenced a generation too – not only did he bring about soul and funk, I think that he inspired P-Funk, Bootsy then the white funk like KC that ultimately turned into disco, then disco influenced dance music and a lot of the club music that we have today. Long bow, but I’m going to draw it.
6. Motzart
I think his body of work and his continued popularity, as well as his amazing personal ability, necessitate a spot on this list. He was also a bit of a freak.
5. Johnny Cash
Johnny had a huge influence on Elvis, wrote some amazing things (‘Folsom Prison Blues’ is one of my favourite songs), and made records from 1957 (With ‘I walk the line’) through to 2002 when he was on deaths door (how about ‘Hurt’ on that album – amazing). I think he also shaped a great deal of American culture. He's had a movie made about him too, surely that's a big deal!
4. Elvis Presley
Elvis is still ‘The King’ – whilst I don’t think he was as revolutionary as some of the other people on this list, his star power probably outshone most of them (‘Elvis was so good they let him appear in movies even though he couldn’t act. They’d let him sing his lines – ‘Hey Elvis, want some Lemonade?’ ‘Leeemoonnnadde, that cool, refreshing drink…’_ oh Eddie!), and he continues to have people travel to his shrine at Gracelands. The King has left the building, but he is still the King!
3. Chuck Berry
Chuck is the pioneer of rock and roll, and could equally be claimed as one of the pioneers of breaking down the racial divide in America through his music. His music was a huge influence on the Beatles and the Stones, and was just bloody good. Amazing guitarist, great lyricist too!
2. Bob Dylan
I think folk music played a really important part in the development of America, and Dylan was the darling child of folk. As such, he would have to be an American Darling. He wrote the songs of that generation, and that generation defined so much of our present culture (via modern day America) so it would be impossible to downplay his influence. He also led the protest movement against Nam, which was again a very important shift, and will continue to play a part in the future via those songs. I also think the number of people who have taken his music and reinterpreted it (Hendrix, Guns and Roses, The Byrds just as top line examples) show how important his music in. I think ‘Like a Rolling Stone’ is one of my favourite songs of all time too – it’s just sensational.
You take a while to like Dylan, I really grew into liking him; but now I’m here it’s hard not to love him.
1.The Beatles
Hard to put them anywhere but here. They’ve sold more records, influenced more people, had their music covered by the most people (look at ‘I Am Sam’ – a whole album of amazing covers. ‘Other side of Abbey Road’ too!!!), look at how they changed pop culture, look at how they still shape current pop music. Each of the Beatles had good solo careers too (well perhaps not Ringo) that also produced some of the biggest songs of all time – ‘Imagine’, ‘Maybe I’m Amazed’, ‘My Sweet Lord’ – they were amazing musicians and I doubt we will ever see the likes of this band again.
So there is my list. Some of the people I wanted to include but didn’t were Beethoven (huge classical composer), Michael Jackson (very influential in so many ways, bit of a freak too), Bob Marley (spoke for a generation and was an important activist), Earl Scruggs (Father of Bluegrass, which influenced so much) and Chet Atkins (one of the best guitar players of all time), but that wouldn’t make it a top ten but a top 15. So many more, but that’s just what I think.
So there you go! Boom!